please don’t lie here about your gospels. To ultimately become another queen of mean personality characterised by these 15 exhibitions of Jay Smithism. Do you personally believe women have deficient intellect? Testimony: Former Muslim Shares His Journey from Islam to Christianity Reza Aslan Helps Christians Prove the Resurrection of Jesus Muslim Scholar Reza Aslan Admits That the Quran Is Wrong about Jesus I don't focus on polemics against Islam. But don’t even think for a moment that I’ll turn the other cheek and allow myself to be beaten down by you losers. He saw she was black and he pigeon-holed her. I was wondering where you were. The wider problem here is that this type of abuse of Muslims is not isolated, it appears to be a common theme amongst many Christians (online mainly). Further more those Muslims AFFIRMED the Quran. Funny seeing how many of the NT books don’t have the authors’ names in them. Charles Gardner is a former Assistant London Editor of the South African Press Association, working for them in Fleet Street throughout the late 1970s before moving to Yorkshire, where he has lived for the past 37 years while working in various senior editorial capacities for a number of newspapers. And yet you have the audacity to make your moronic claim. Pure bullshit! Your hairy goat god is just like any other goat in his oneness. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Sam Shamoun calls me “sewage” and “slime”. Could you show me where the Mark, Matthew, Luke, John copies are? It is possible Las Vegas was an ISIS attack after all. Was she a former Muslim as folks will have us believe? Pray For Hatun Tash, So She Becomes More Loving. No. And even if he did, with all the Islamic terrorist attacks, grooming gangs, growing number of no-go areas and various regressive attitudes all primarily being instigated by Muslims across the west on a regular basis, maybe he has an actual point? What a pathetic display. Blame the Bible not the Quran. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. You Muslims are a strange bunch. You’re really struggling with this, aren’t you? If you want to make a point, make it. “NT writers use allegory for teaching purposes and don’t claim they are citing the LITERAL ETERNAL WORD OF GOD” Samaritan, i do agree they shouldn’t offend you and your friends by calling you those names…. Not that you’ll ever understand. Here we go Coco and the other Christian clowns. don’t lie any more. “Will ye call upon Baal and forsake the Best of Creators,- “Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?””. 4 It is a murderous ideology. I suspect he believes Jesus agrees with his abuse and it is biblical behaviour. How so? Still no answer about the Bible paganism, I see. Jay Smith and Beth Grove should be ashamed. I gave you the Hadith even then you just choose to ignore it. -Dr. John L. Esposito of the Georgetown University. Jay Smith, Sam Shamoun, Beth Grove etc., all need to take a look in the mirror. Paul Williams at Speakers’ Corner, London. Their behaviour refutes their personal beliefs. ( Log Out /  Your blog is dumb, you are dumb. 1) There is only one god: “There is no god save Allah” (47.19). You are using the same arguments that atheists use against the bible. He only invites his adherents,that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire. Instead of marketing her as somebody preaching her “testimony”, Jay Smith moulded her into somebody who aggressively rattles off from his worn-out polemical sheet. So the 33000 Muslims who approved just don’t matter he lol. To listen to a great explanation of this practice by a Jewish lady and a couple of Muslim scholars please see here. End of story. How so? Muslims, please pray for this lady so that she turns her life around for the better, becomes more loving and moves away from Islamophobic, hateful and offensive behaviour. 1) There is only one god: “There is no god save Allah” (47.19). Where is your evidence that “33000” muslims gave their approval to your holey book, and why should I respect anyone who claims that a book with obvious plagiarisms from human sources is divine? If there are no people to affirm it really comes from him then wth does it matter? Abu Bakr said (to me). Which they didn’t! Isiah 45:5 Is this something you believe is endorsed by Christianity? We have absolutely NOTHING from any apostles of Jesus who approved the NT. “there is plenty of reason to beliebe that these accounts are largely accurate. “O Lord, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You” 1 Chronicles 17:20 #LoveNotHate; Dr Yasir Qadhi: the Qur'an is much better preserved than the New Testament; Nouman Ali Khan: his official statement refuting the allegations "Eli Eli lama sabachthani" - a case of misquoting Psalms? ”. But, I am glad that Jay Smith and his comrades are out there doing what they are doing. That’s exactly why your biblical (most of the crosstians) scholars are ripping apart your comicbook as we speak. notice how jesus is clearly ritualistic. Far-right activist Tommy Robinson has been arrested under coronavirus regulations at a rally in London’s Hyde Park. Charity begins at home. The Clinton testimony was THAT stupid. ( Log Out /  All it means is tat 33000 muslims were ignorant and gullible. Shove the taqiyya card up your ass. Forgot about that one? What a joke. No, it’s a straighforward way of saying that qb is an idiot who used links to his own stupid articles to support the arguments if his articles, you moron. “You moron – you linked to your own stupid work. Then I said to Abu Bakr, “How will you do something which Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) did not do?” Abu Bakr replied, “By Allah, it is a good project.” Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and `Umar. We have MANY lines of transmission going back to the prophet. Paul quotes from pagan sources and claims his ‘gospel’ to come from Jesus himself.”. Some points, IIRC, which were made by Hamza and Adnan but drowned out by the Lizzie’s Hatun Tash-Like cadence which I want to focus on before going on to talk specifics. A response to Western academics who categorise Salafis into: Quietists, Politicos and Jihadists – and why this is a false categorisation. You seem to forget I gave you the Hadith with Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman. “I’m busted and my comicbook can’t stand that criticism so I’ll just throw something out there to not appear embarrassed even his answer is base on my self invented arguments. Christians claim that the NT is a book that relates events through the experience of eye witnesses – there is plenty of reason to beliebe that these accounts are largely accurate. These lost fools were radicalised by Jay Smith who carefully groomed them. If you you’re going to be consistent you should be condemning the shenanigans of some of your fellow Muhammadans here who aren’t exactly preaching love for the people of the book. It’s unbelievable. you can repeat like a DOG many times, but the truth is that your texts are written by unknown anonymous people . Jay Smith talks with Al Fadi about the many different Qurans that he and Hatun Tash found. True, we do know exactly where the quran came from – pagan fairy tales, christian apocrypha, and rabbinic talmudic speculation. 1 Hatun tash 2 David wood 3 Christian prince One sure thing about Islam is coercion 1 Islam hates criticism. -Dr. Graig Considine Isiah 45:5 That’s something your cult does. Maybe someone should point this out to these idiots. I can’t believe you still keep going with your pathetic oneness argument. Revelation 12 borrows from pagan imagery to describe the “woman clothed with the sun” and the “red dragon” which tried to devour her child. You go around and throw out your usual ‘we are love, jesus is loooove, we are all all loving, we don’t hate’ propaganda. I’m not interested in your stupid blog nor its stupid articles. so what was the literal female wisdom of yhwh which became SHEmale siting targumic renderings of original hebrew? She was there to talk about, you guessed it, racism and slavery. There’s a difference between an apologetic and a hate preacher, infact Jay Smith is an apologetic but maybe he fits the category of hate preacher as well due to the fact that he promotes the fear muslims…no wonder he’s considered extreme by some christians…, I meant “Apologist” instead of “Apologetic”…sorry about that. There are still a few other traces that are easy to spot in the theophoric names to be found in the bible. Sad, belieber. Bring your evidence of Jay promoting the “fear of Muslims”. People memorized it. Hatun Tash invades a Muslim man’s personal boundaries and hugs him despite him not giving her permission and not wanting contact with a female who is not a family member – all in an effort to cause drama. Daniel 7:9ff incorporates Canaanite pagan imagery to describe as an aged man with white hair. was jesus /logos believing in them as LITERAL history? 3.every excuse you can use to defend the story in matthew, can you lend support to miracles in other religions using the same excuses? So just save it. In order to preserve the flow of conversation about various posted items, and also in order to make it easier for visitors to find the list of related links being shared by other readers, regulars and interested parties in one place, each day a post is automatically created at a minute past midnight ET. The OT is all oral tradition idiot. Saul had a son called Ishbaal (1 Chr 8:33) transformed into Ishbosheth (2 Sam 2:8). You cry out your love propaganda and then use smug, vile comments about our belief. We want you to believe in one God, not three in one and then to throw in there the word person and the word being and pretend that that is monotheism. Nabeel Qureshi, an ex Ahmadi, who converted to Christianity built the foundations of a career in missionary on his “testimony”. School is important for little kids. How many times do I have to tell you that I am a Muslim, not a crosstian idiot. In our last email exchange which a Christian radio/TV show presenter as CC’d in he called me all of the following: A “vile dog”, “slime” “Muhammadan dog” “swine”, “vile rabid dog”. Have you been living in a cave on Mars? Awww, so sad…. Written by mejat mejat ˈʌɪwɪtnəs/Submit You’re an embarrassment to your religion. I blockquoted this because it is so unbeliebably dumb.LOL!! Who wrote Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Hebrews, etc? Nothing. Jesus was clearly ritualistic . How does your sign argument work when 2Peter is a forgery? Incredible. ... who converted to Christianity built the foundations of a career in missionary on his “testimony”. Reminding you of what exactly the Bible said? You just bitch around a lil bit to appear to make a point but you fail. I suggest you learn Islam from the following Christians who are Islamic scholars. Do not worship man. How is the oneness of the Father OR the Son OR the HS different from ours? ( Log Out /  This is just another example. He said to turn the other cheek. YOU made a claim, moron, that 33000 muslims witnessed this “miracle” – where’s the evidence? Who cares if YOU think we’re bad “ambassadors”? Sorry you are unable to reason logically – must be because you are an imbecile. Is Christian Persecution Complex Harming Muslim-Christian Dialogue? Non Muslims scholars I meant “can you please show me”….sorry i missed typing the words. I gave you the Hadith even then you just choose to ignore it.”. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. Just a shame for you it’s a false God. This isn’t Islam. It says it’s written by Peter but it’s not written by Peter. Hatun Tash’s unwanted touching would be seen as offensive and disturbing. What’s unbeliebable is that you think that citing a book of hadith that was constructed 200 years after the events, taken from sources that no longer exist is somehow a slam dunk. The triune god has experiential feelings of dying i.e while your god was dying ALLAH was everliving i.e DEATH does not TAKE over ALLAH while it does your god. Samaritan, Why don’t we play a little swapping game? noun Hatun is the director of DCCI Ministries. “No, it’s a straighforward way of saying that qb is an idiot who used links to his own stupid articles to support the arguments if his articles, you moron.” That could have something to do with the probability that the guy received death threats? when ones mind is filled with hate and anger one forgets that the poor non Jewish girl knew nothing about Jewish and pagan way of life. Two Years After the Police Killing of Philando Castile, Justice Continues to Be Denied, Hell hath no fury like millions of women done with being f*cked over, Why the War on Christmas Isn’t What You Think, The Design of Segregated Public Bathrooms: Victorian, Jim Crow, Trans, and Disability, Gender Neutral Dolls Are Finally Here and They Need To Stay, Autistic Uprising: a New Rebellion of Hearts and Minds, Blood on the Pavement: White Supremacy Guides our Response to the Shooting of Megan Thee Stallion. Most of the books in the NT are written by unknown potatoes. His authority is over those only, who take him as patron and who join partners with God. Yet it contains pagan stories. Allah is a false moon deity that pre-dates Islam which the pagan arabs worshiped. Arab Christians worship Allah. 1. An old dog cannot be taught new tricks — Smith was that old dog. As we learnt, Hatun’s teacher calls Muslims “sewage”. notice that in Jesus’ view the ANIMAL receives his food by having it CAST at him? Gideon is called Jerubbaal (Jdg 6:32) and is referred to as Jerubbosheth in 2 Sam 11:21 (with Baal replaced by “shame”). You are the one who is making the claim that the Quran copied from those sources and that those stories are false. Gets Christians up the learning curve quickly with the apologetic fundamentals for talking with Muslims. Rotfl, oh this is too hilarious! Clearest sign of other gods? 53They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection ande went into the holy city and appeared to many people. Sadegh's Testimony Story Is An Embarrassment to Ch... SaRa Garvey Dishonouring Marcus Garvey's Name; ... Hatun Tash and Beth Grove will reflect on why Jay Smith's Pfander Ministries and Pfander Films has accrued such caustic and extremist anti-Muslim followers over the years. Get used to it – you worship a creature. I’ll post the examples again later when I get home, InshaAllah. Dear Lord. Sadly, it’s a sign of the times. “Could you show me where the Ibn Thabit copies are?” So yea those are Jesus’ words. You stupid moron. You can’t go around making people so uncomfortable, regardless of whether you think it’s harmless fun. Western losers have used the taqiyya card as a hijacked word. This is specially problematic because the Quran and Muslims claim that there is not one letter is changed in the Quran. You people are good at that. Or whatever the missionary equivalent of type cast is! The fact that 2Peter is not written by Peter even though it makes that claim proves you argument is pure bullshit. Exposing Adnan Rashid, a Compulsive Liar ft. Dr Jay Smith , Hatun Tash. how about the fictional stories in the old testament? I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, Sahih International: Say, “O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].”. Hmmmmm…..Well i remember he said in public that he thinks muslims gonna kill him which i guess you know what he wants to prove, he also talked about how he’s worried about the growing influence of muslims(remember the pork story video in which he says muslims want to impose our code) and the list goes on….this pretty much shows he fits the category of a hate preacher…, You also brought up the case of “Islamic” terror attacks…well that’s the dividing point, there’s a lot of Christian Apologists who are against Islam but they don’t go in public and shout on roads to target the whole Islamic community and preaching how dangerous we are and, *and saying that we might kill them and also preaching that we’re gonna impose our values on that society, You also talked about the terms used against christians in this blog, well this was my point when i talk about “Apologetics”…there’s a difference between an Apologist and a hate preacher…Infact i never heard Paul williams or Ijaz or any other muslim apologists shouting on the road that Christians gonna kill us or that Christians want to forcefully impose their values on us and i’ve also never heard them spreading fear of christians in public…. I mean really? This poor lady, Hatun Tash of DCCI Ministries, is so obnoxious, rude and disrespectful towards Muslims and their faith on  a regular basis. And we think the same about you. You are a moron, your blog is going to be moronic, and only morons like belieber and heathcliff would read it. That is, if you hold to a religion that believes women are deficient in intellect. I’ll gladly be proven wrong on that. I don’t know whether she has any part in the Pfander organisation now. Besides do actually read some of the derogatory terms bandied about by Muslims against Christians on this blog? They didn’t just hear it ones and that was that. Take a look at 2 Peter. Hatun Tash has been the victim of yet another assault by Muslims. I’d imagine he saw Lizzie as ethnically English. For perspective on the limits of science, here's Aunt Matilda's Cake. Home › Islamophobia › Pray For Hatun Tash, So She Becomes More Loving. The trinity is pagan and a belief in three gods no matter how much you claim it’s monotheism. Your insults will not prevent me from my crusade against worshiping man, God-man, creature-God like cow, creature God like man, monkey, Haile Selaissie, Jesus Christ, Sai Baba, Ali etc. Why didn’t he market her as a nice,caring motherly type? “No, muslims make the claim that the quran is the truth and the literal word of goaty oneness. The Quran is just reminding you what the Bible said. How did Jay Smith sully the images of these missionaries. You’re not going against the so-called words of your beloved property are you? Da’wah is the islamic equivalent to christian mission; the arabic words irsalyyat (missions) and tabshir (evangelism) are not used to describe this work. LOL!!! Was Jay Smith producing a “Christian missionary” or was he producing a culturalist? You can’t get any more dumb. When Matthew quotes from the book of Nathan yo would condemn that as well right cus that book is not found in the OT.”. nearly everyone knows that those texts are not based on eyewitness testimony. NOT A PROPHET!!! Do not worship man. And I don’t throw the taqiyya term around lightly as I fully understand that you Muslims have mostly abandoned the use of deception as it isn’t as effective a ploy as it used to be given the advancement of modern technology i.e. ... Hatun Tash Removed for Blasphemy – YouTube. You think that’s not good enough cus you want the original. And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Create a free website or blog at No, muslims make the claim that the quran is the truth and the literal word of goaty oneness. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24), “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. How is the oneness of the triune pagan god different from ours? If you claim that Jesus breathing into clay birds and giving them life is a made up story then the burden of proof is on you. So sad. She’s clearly a victim of people with nefarious agendas who instilled such a venomous spirit of confrontation into her with respect to Muslims and Islam. We’re here because we care and don’t want to see you end up in hell. The Jews call this Shomer Negiah. Lesley Hazelton, a Jew. Most Jews and some Unitarian Christians agreed with the Quran when it teaches and reminding people to worship only one God of Abraham and not “3 persons 1 God”, that is not in the Bible. That is circular you fool.” How Jesus Became God From Good Teacher to Divine Savior. hey piggy, did the literal female wisdom of yhwh become flesh and site targumic interpretations of the hebrew text? You can’t. (2) He is the “creator of everything” (6.102). Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. We don’t deceive and lie to people to convert them to our religion and have never done so. Now go to sleep. Science disagrees with you – tell the same story to 33000 people and the chances are, they will tell 33000 different stories to their friends. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Why didn’t he just think hold on, I’ve got a new face here, I can try to do something different with her. Classic moronic missing the significance. “For who is God, but Yahweh? What a lying scumbag. Prove those are made up. Why does your Bible borrow from pagan mythology? Just between the Warsh and the Hafs copies, there is five thousand differences. Is the Torah for example (that God GAVE to Moses) not part of the eternal word of God? How about you live up to those self proclaimed titles. Blame the Bible not the Quran. Sadly, we have no idea who actually wrote the quran down – they are not signed, so whoever did it could have added all kinds of politically or religiously convenient rubbish. Sorry to disappoint you but Allah is not the one true God. 2. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. You can verify whether this is the case or not. To insist on moon god and satan as Islam is embarrassing to the one who repeats such nonsense. They quote apocryphal sources you idiot. The rest of your posts are a load pretentious bs not worth addressing. This is an interesting article by Dr Scot McKnight a distinguished American New Testament scholar and Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary in Lombard, IL. IIRC Sam Shamoun justifies his hard-line stance by claiming Jesus was harsh with certain people in the NT. You just can’t think. He clearly thought that Jewish legalism and ritualism puts him above the humble non Jewish woman. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. But you Christians find that impossible to do, and so you essentially make a tu quoque argument like “I am insulted. He told and retold it. What pagan fairy tales? Jews of Arab decent like Palestinian Jews worship Allah. There she was type-cast. quote : 1:11-12 says: “For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship. “he sad thing is we know exactly where the Quran is coming from and who wrote it down.”. 2. i read similar stories in Hansel and grettal. New International Version “You alone [bad], Lord, are God.” Isaiah 37:20. It’s YOUR pathetic book remember? You are so sad and pathetic – you’ve bitchslapped no one except – probably – for your own wife according to the example of your prophet. This is what I wish I had known when I first came in contact with Muslims who were active … It did not appear in the world until the 7th century and seems to contain materials written and in existence by human beings prior to its existence. So I started looking for the Qur’an and collecting it from (what was written on) palme stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last Verse of Surat at-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. It’s impossible for thousands of people to memorize large portions of the Quran and then all of a sudden magically forget everything. Paul claims to have received the gospel that was not preached to anyone straight from Jesus. You moron – you linked to your own stupid work. I don’t need to demonise anybody here, you and your fellow Muhammadanists do a good enough job of that all by yourselves. New International Version So what if he links to his articles. And joel my lil shit starts bitching in 3, 2, 1 …. (16: 98–100), Verily Satan is an enemy to you: so treat him as an enemy. If I understand correctly, Mr Shamoun, takes the view his insults are not in contravention with Christian behaviour. You can just not come to this blog. The sad thing is we know exactly where the Quran is coming from and who wrote it down. Wtf is this? Mr Brown is a christian. If he got the gospel from jesus as he claims then those are eventually jesus’ words. Pickthall: In this case, although I do encourage a public apology, I won’t ask for it myself as it may be that Lizzie, Daniel and Hatun believe their comments were acceptable according to their Church tradition. Pray For Hatun Tash, So She Becomes More Loving. That is circular you fool.”, LOL!! main page. Disrespectful Christian Lady Shouting At Adnan Rashid Over Manchester Terrorist Attack. 2 It is domineering. Jay Smith, a professional missionary leader, just wrecked the reputations of his subordinates. Do likewise for Lizzie Schofield. He knew the negative reputation his group had. Jesus would be proud (seeing how he send two bears to shred 42 boys to pieces, but being vile and toxic is the next best thing I guess). No, there is no need to apologize to someone who is ignorant and cannot provide a coherent and thoughtful response. Even if they weren’t, paul is an apostle according to you so whatever he says in his letters is scripture and hence Jesus approves. No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord. Reminding you of what exactly the Bible said? Somebody on FB asked “is this your mentor” or words to that effect whilst tagging Lizzie Schofield of DCCI Ministries. You mean the ones that Paul quotes twice? Sahih International: You’re a bigoted, ignorant loser who doesn’t actually want to learn about Islam and Muslims, but rather to demonize them. Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: “I’m busted and my comicbook can’t stand that criticism so I’ll just throw something out there to not appear embarrassed even his answer is base on my self invented arguments. He uses such de-humanising terms for people he feels threatened by regularly – he’s been doing it for years. Twenty Arguments For The Existence Of God, Brother Paul’s story – Path to Truth | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park, How a Dice can show that God (almost certainly) exists, How to Approach and Understand Hadith – Dr Jonathan Brown. No one who can validate what they say. Can you trace back ONE word that Jesus allegedly uttered back to Jesus? 3. Lol, thus is coming from a guy who uses arguments like taqiyya, mongol etc. Categories: Islamophobia, Speakers Corner, Tags: beth grove, dcci ministries, hatun tash, jay smith, pfander ministries, sam shamoun, samuel green. No scholar believes the moongod myth that you guys invented. Luke copied Mark too. Karyn Armstrong, a former nun. “Again, this is an extravagant claim that requires evidence – you don;t have any. It smacks of tokenism, reeling Sarah Foster out every time you want to talk about racism and slavery. As we learnt, Hatun’s teacher calls Muslims “sewage”. Just pure denial. The reasonable conclusion is that the quran plagiarizes man made stories that existed before islam, the less reasonable conclusion is that the quran is divine. that he copied from places like JihadWatch! Here is why.. James White Is Not Impressed by David Wood’s Arguments and Behaviour,,, Christian Women Have To Wear Hijab According To The Bible, 1 John 5:7 And Matthew 28:19 - Fabricated Trinity Verses. Will you answer why your Bible borrows from pagan mythology? Well let us assume if he was threatened to be killed by a particular muslim, then why should he generalize against whe whole muslim community and in case you didn’t know, he was talking in the context of muslim immigration as well when he said that statement…. They were not signed argument strikes again! A collection of tips on how to answer the standard Muslim arguments against Christianity. If she was pegged as the “English” missionary it explains the low level English/Western Culturalist themes in her blog posts. Posted on June 27th, 2020 by jabejabe I would encourage Hatun to apologise. Allegory, really? “God’s triune oneness is different to ours in …” One is no longer surprised to read in discussions about same-sex relations — in church or in society at large … Buahahahaha. Maybe your fellow losers Cerberus and Bad Samaritan can help you, since you obviously seem helpless. “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. So Matthew isn’t the writer of the gospel according to Matthew cus why on earth would an eyewitness go to a non-eyewitness and copy his book. She was the brown face with a foreign accent. It’s amazing these crosstians whenever confronted with inconsistency they cry out ‘tu quoque fallacy, tu quoque fallacy, tu quoque fallacy!!!!! ” It’s impossible for thousands of people to memorize large portions of the Quran and then all of a sudden magically forget everything.”. “What a pathetic way to get around the problem. I already told you that 33000 Muslims (including Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman) gave approval of the Quran. [ I suspect she was an asylum seeker, if you’re an asylum seeker who converts to get stay in a country nobody is really going to find that story compelling]. If you don’t like our responses then perhaps you shouldn’t have big mouths yourselves! Btw the Quran doesn’t quote them. I think a smart missionary with marketing experience would have took a different road. Every Word of God is eternal you idiot. Just go back and read some of their replies to Joel, Paulus, Erasmus and me. Allah’s Unjust Judgement. Not that scholars believe that what you have are eyewitness accounts anyways. It’s not surprising to a Muslim that the Bible contains evidence of the Israelites’ worship of Baal, given that the Quran speaks about how the Israelites turned to the worship of Baal. Coco is like a 10 year old throwing a temper tantrum! This is the best you have? With MANY more hundreds of years. Its description of Yahweh bears no difference from the Greek description of Zeus. Jonathan has a son called Mephibosheth (2 Sam 4:4) who is also called Meribbaal (1 Chr 8:34). As if not having the name at the end of the book makes it unreliable. So God doesn’t know until a certain point in time? Which you can’t . Folks, this is the fruit of irresponsible teachers and/or influences who are antagonistic towards Muslims … It makes sense to blame certain men for the perceived bad actions of these women. And of His portents are the night and the day and the sun and the moon. Have problem with Jesus Christ first before anyone else when it comes to deficiency in women intellect. We can trace back every word of the Quran all the way back to Muhammad via multiple lines of transmissions. Even your 2 Peter is a forgery! You have claimed that your holey book is uncorrupted and is a pristine copy of the original – you don’t have the original, so your claim is as much nonsense as the nonsense book you are making claims about. Paul quotes from pagan sources and claims his ‘gospel’ to come from Jesus himself. The tables are turned on Bad Samaritan and his false religion! The burden of proof is on you. Perhaps that’s why they aren’t part of Pfander Centre for Apologetics any longer. O and btw how is the oneness of the Father OR the Son OR the HS different from ours? If she does, I’d imagine she is there for the black demographic. You are ignorant when it comes to Islam. I don’t even know how many times I smacked you to be honest. My comment went down below to the bottom please check it…seems i forgot to click on reply…sorry for the inconvenience…. This moronic crosstian ‘argument’ that you crosstians have come up with is without a doubt one of the most STUPID ones by far. “They were not dictated to him word for word like it’s alleged about your silly Quran.” You make that claim so no you deceptive lil shit, the burden of proof is on you. Along with the other ‘heroines’ like Hatun Tash. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14), “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. And who is a rock, except our God” Psalm 18:31 These folks believe they are followers of Jesus and are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. main page In 561. Could you show me where the Ibn Thabit copies are? Instead of asking yourselves the question “why is our prophet, the so-called greatest example for humanity, making such a harsh idiotic misogynistic and demonstrably false statement?”, you deviate and run straight to the bible in a desperate attempt at justifying Muhammed’s nonsense. We want you to leave these pagan belief as well and accept true monotheism. All this despite him being on record admitting his polemical approach does not work in Europe. and whenever they smell inconsistency then they cry out ‘You’re being inconsistent!’ which funnily enough is an inconsistency in itself. Muhammad and the sahabah would be proud your behaviour. NOT GOD!!!! Is he the god of loser howler monkeys? Why should we care what you think? The Quran was put together by the Prophet’s closest companions and made copies of them and send out to 4 cites. We get it, you Muslims worship ONE god. So, so, stupid. A rare breed in the church and rarer breed at Speakers Corner. Do Jay Smith’s Pfander Centre for Apologetics Really Preach Trinitarian Views on Jesus?

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